$395 Realty Firm's "Admin Fee": Junk or Legit?
Somebody must be reading this (actually 60 people a day) since this GREAT question came in.
Q. My listing agent is taking commission plus a $395 administrative fee. What is the administrative fee all about?
Great question! Why didn’t I think of that?
First of all I don’t know what you mean by “taking.” If you are telling me that you signed a listing agreement for a certain percentage and the $395 was NOT mentioned in there, and suddenly you are expected to pay it at the closing, I think your exact words should be “over my dead body.”
Shameless plug: FranklyRealty.com has never charged an Administrative fee. I just never understood what it was. It is a junk fee, but allowed if you agree to it.
What is an administrative fee?
It is a fee that is supposed to cover “the cost of paper and tools, etc.” Um, but don’t they also get a BIG chunk of the commission too? Yes, so it is a fluff fee to increase revenue. A fee that is easy to slip past the client that might not know better, so why not charge it?
- Thank God you have this Blog to get the inside scoop.
Shameless plug #2 If you are smart, you’ll sign up for future blogs to be emailed to you (at the bottom). I apologize for all these plugs on this particular blog, and I know blogs aren’t supposed to be self promotional, but when 70% of the competition does shady stuff like this, I just can’t contain myself.)
How do they get away with this fee 70% of the time?
While everyone knows there is competition for which agent you pick, there is another round of competition that you might not know about. It is the competition amongst brokerage firms to get the top producing agents to work for them. Different firms have different split structures. Some start with 50% going to the firm and 50% going to the agent (and they need an admin on top of that, give me a break!). And this 50/50 split is for deals that the agent finds on their own! It drops even more if the firm gave them the deals. And it cuts in HALF for the first couple of deals since a mentor gets a portion. Yes, a new agent can get as low as 20% of the commission, I saw it in real life. A friend/new Realtor walked out with a $2,100 check on a $10,000 commission that she brought to the firm. And you all thought we had it easy!!
So one way firms lure agents in is with more competitive splits. Some firms recruit newbies at 50% splits, and some take experienced agents and only charge 5%, plus “desk fees.” But wait. They have to make money somehow.
So many firms started with “admin” fees to subsidize the brokers (because the agents wanted higher splits) and now they also do it with ABA’s (see Blog: “Affiliated Business” or Illegal Kickbacks?) So one could say that the brokerages didn’t need to charge that if the agent split was lower and more profitable. So while the agent pitches it as “oh the broker charges that, I can’t do anything about it,” they in the meantime are charged less by the broker. So indirectly that admin fee goes to the agent, in the form of lower fees to them. Have I confused you yet?
- Here is how the conversation probably started:
- Agent: Dear Broker, I need a better split.
- Broker: But I’m not making enough money at this rate.
- Agent: Do better or I will leave.
- Broker: Hold on, I’ll give you a better split but you will have to pass on a $395 fee to your clients that would go directly to us.
- Agent: Deal! Where do I sign?
- Agent to Client: Oh, that Admin fee is for the broker to cover costs of doing business.
- Client: Um, ok.
- Client’s friend: You should have read Blog.FranklyRealty.com

How common is the Admin Fee and where should I look for it?
I spoke to 2 closing companies. Both agreed that the range was from $195 to $395 and they were on 70% of closings, and they were on both the listing side AND the buying side. I had never seen them on the buying agent side, news to me. Heck, maybe I should start charging this!
What can you do?
- Net everything out. If your listing agent is charging x% plus $395, add it up. And question it to see their recorded pitch.
- If you never signed anything allowing that fee, make the agent eat it. This is like a lender giving you a good faith estimate and suddenly adding an admin fee.
- It is up to you if you wish to ask for the fee to be waived if it WAS disclosed. I go back and forth on the ethics behind this since you DID agree to it. But maybe you were tricked into it? One closing company told me that 10% of agents eat this fee since some are embarrassed by the fee and sometimes because a customer won’t pay it.
- Pick a firm that doesn’t nickel and dime you. If they are pulling this fast one on you, what else are they pulling?
Again, they might say, “it is for the cost of paper and tools, etc.” Your response is, “Out of this $10,000 commission, don’t they already get a large portion? I won’t pay that fee.”
Good luck and let me know how it goes!
- Written by Frank Borges LL0SA- Broker/Owner FranklyRealty.com
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I even know of one company that lets the REALTOR charge whatever “Admin fee” they want and the Realtor is allowed to take that fee themselves!
Yes, they blame it on the broker, but then they pocket it.
Nice going!
Hey Frank,
I’m so glad you did a blog on this. I think those admin fees are a sham and would never work with a firm that charges them. From a buyer or sellers point of view, their agent is being paid in the form of a commission. How much of that is going to the broker vs. the agent is not the client’s problem.
Our job as agents is to represent our client and get them the best deal possible. To turn around and try to charge them an additional junk fee is NOT looking out for their best interest!
These brokers that pimp their agents out to squeeze a few extra bucks off of their clients should be ashamed of themselves! We’re not used car salesman….sneaking an extra fee in there is just downright sleazy! (Can you tell I feel strongly about this?)
[I work for Remax] Each Remax office is independently owned and operated so each individual Broker/Owner decides whether to charge one or not. Mine doesn’t.
The way I see it, any Broker is going to make their money one way or another, either by taking a percentage or charging a monthly fee or whatever. I get that they’re running a business and need to make money.
But no one is going to dictate to me what I charge my clients. Especially a junk fee that makes me look like a total sleaze.
Thanks Cheryl
I thought that firm always charged admin fees. Good to know that is not the case.
Frank
Frank: You picked another great topic.
As a title agent we now have to be really careful with commission statements. Normally having one statement from each office was sufficient – listing and selling, if co-brokered. We had a closing two months ago where the listing agent and buyer agent worked for the same office and each were charging an additional fee but disclosed it on separate commission statements. Our HUD preparer only picked up one thinking the other sheet was redundant. I ended up eating a $250 fee because we missed it.
I am a free market person and so I don’t begrudge anybody the right to pick up any legal fee. I DO have a problem with the practice when you consider it in the big picture of ABAs and kickbacks and the pressure for title agents and lenders to eat fees to make a deal work.
This is part of the mob-like environment that has developed. I think individually, transaction per transaction, an agent or broker may justify additional fees and, “frankly”, who cares as long as the customer was given a chance to shop for services and decided to deal with this company.
But when you consider that the real estate industry has pressured lenders and title insurers into revenue sharing arrangements, legal and illegal, taking from them a portion of their truly hard earned wages, under the guise of reducing costs to the consumer, then you see the real estate industry inventing new fees to charge consumers, you have to ask what the hey? [I know that's a real long sentence.]
Anyway, you get my drift.
I use to work with a realtor who charges $900 to the buyer and/or seller he’s representing. He claimed it was to pay for his assistants. It made me sick. We no longer work together. At the time, he was the only realtor I’ve seen do this. I’m not sure if this is happening more now in the Seattle area or not?
You might like this article in the Washington Post on Junk Fees:
http://tinyurl.com/2kwnlp
Frank,
I’m so glad I found this blog. I am closing on my new home on Friday and was told about admin fees of $295 the Monday before my closing. I did make the agent eat the fee. It feels good to make the realtor accountable for their actions. Private mortgage insurance doesn’t seem so crooked any more.
Thanks so much!!
Hey Donald,
Thanks for the feedback.
Make sure you sign up for the blog, as each post is designed to save somebody a few hundred or thousand dollars.
ALso if that agent didn’t disclose those fees up front, you can report them. Email me directly to find out how.
Frank
I closed on a home yesterday and the agent called back today to tell me that the closing attorney forgot to put in an administrative fee of $195.00. She did say that her broker was charging her for that fee and not me. The realtor Crye-Leike places this fee in te contract with other wording so that it blends into the contract and is not conspicious. This fee is outrageous and needs to be outlawed especially since the broker and the agent make so much money from the sale.
My buyer’s agent disclosed a $395 admin fee to us and explained that it was to pay the broker for the use of his facility.
I had a perplexed and frowned look on my face when he told us this, and he quickly offered to pay for it out of his own pocket.
It still left a bad taste in my mouth and he made it seem like we were taking money out of his pocket. Not a great way to start a relationship with a realtor.
My agent at Baird & Warner said they would recommend me to another firm if I was adamant against the fee. That’s just sad. I understand the brokers ae suffering financially, but I might as well hire a secretary to do the work to sell it FSBO (showings/placing ads etc.). It seems that admin fees will only leave them with the properties people are desperate to sell and further depreciate the marketplace.
I just pulled some data for a reporter, and this is what I found…
Out of the 18 deals that I pulled HUD1s for 13 of them charged Admin fees. They ranged from $210 to $295
Here is a buyer agent fee. Meanwhile they are giving a rebate. I thought that was pretty funny.
I pulled up a bunch of HUD1s
- $1.8 Million dollar purchase… Buyer agent $295 admin fee.
- $800k Falls church Buyer Agent Fee $295
- $300k Falls church Listing agent fee $0 (same company as one above)
- $500k Arlington Listing agent No fee listed (same company as first line)
- $450k Alexandria. Listing agent plus $210 admin fee.
- $525k falls church. Buyer Agent no Admin fee.
- $300k reston buyer agent $210 admin fee (same as $210 company above for listing side) Listed at bottom of page 2
- $350k $250 buyer agent fee
- $225k $295 buyer agent fee
- $800k 3% to buyer agent, $295 admin fee
- $379k $295 admin fee (listing side)
- $285k Listing , $295 admin fee
- $500k ashburn NO admin fee posted
- $800 buyer agent side charged $210 admin fee
$550k buyer side charged $250 admin fee
- $250k, Plus $295 admin fee for listing side
- $300k buyer side, NO admin fee
= $635k Listing admin fee is $399
So of the 18 deals about I found 3 that did not charge admin fees. Keep in mind, we never charge them, so the info about is when the other side charges them.
Frank
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Hey Frank,
I gotta say I love the website as well as all of your incredibly helpful insight. As a DIY person, it really helps to be able to talk with and learn from those with experience.
I was going line for line through our “Good Faith” (LOL) Estimate. Some of it was in accordance, but there were/are a few junk fees. Blogs like yours help people like me separate the good from the bad.
Thanks for the helpful advice.
P.S. Have you unraveled the mysteries surrounding the duties of a title company yet? They are still an enigma…
Hi Frank
I listed my townhome for selling with B&W. No luck. I completed the contract and took the property off the market. They now send me a bill for 295.00 for admin fees. Is this legal? The contract does state that we have to pay if we seel but does not explicitly mention that we have to pay that no matter what. Whats your opinion ?
Great question. Depends what the exact contract says. Ask them to show you where it says that they are owed a fee.
Frank