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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s shocking to me how far the banks are willing to go to maintain their addendum clauses. After viewing a bank owned home that had been on the market a few days, we put in an offer since the house showed really well. The utilities were turned OFF, so there were some uncertainties when we viewed the home, but put in the offer anyway. Our offer was selected and the bank had us sign an addendum that they would not pay for any repairs nomatter what (we did have the right to void the contract after home inpection though). We agreed to the addendum and scheduled our inspection for a few days later. 

When we went to the inspection there was a heavy mold smell in the basement and the carpet in the (finished) basement was wet. Our agent called the listing agent to see what had happened -- turns out when the utilities were off, so was the sump pump. There had been a rainstorm after our offer was accepted and some water had gotten into the basement. The carpet had been damaged and after having a &quot;mold person&quot; check it out, they said there was mold starting to grow. We obviously sent a letter to the bank saying that if they did not remediate the mold we would void the contract. The bank responded by saying that they still will not make any repairs to the home nomatter what. So we walked away.

At this point, I have no idea who is going to buy that house. The basement reeks now, so anyone who shows it is NOT going to put in an offer. Even if someone wanted to put in a significantly lower offer, I don&#039;t know if they could even get a mortgage if a lender knows there&#039;s mold growing (seems like a huge liability to a lender). Even if the bank doesn&#039;t want to sell the house to us anymore, you&#039;d think they&#039;d still fix the mold problem if they want anyone to ever buy the house. There are no windows in the basement and there were no de-humidifiers to deal with the wet carpet-- a jungle is going to grow down there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s shocking to me how far the banks are willing to go to maintain their addendum clauses. After viewing a bank owned home that had been on the market a few days, we put in an offer since the house showed really well. The utilities were turned OFF, so there were some uncertainties when we viewed the home, but put in the offer anyway. Our offer was selected and the bank had us sign an addendum that they would not pay for any repairs nomatter what (we did have the right to void the contract after home inpection though). We agreed to the addendum and scheduled our inspection for a few days later. </p>
<p>When we went to the inspection there was a heavy mold smell in the basement and the carpet in the (finished) basement was wet. Our agent called the listing agent to see what had happened &#8212; turns out when the utilities were off, so was the sump pump. There had been a rainstorm after our offer was accepted and some water had gotten into the basement. The carpet had been damaged and after having a &#8220;mold person&#8221; check it out, they said there was mold starting to grow. We obviously sent a letter to the bank saying that if they did not remediate the mold we would void the contract. The bank responded by saying that they still will not make any repairs to the home nomatter what. So we walked away.</p>
<p>At this point, I have no idea who is going to buy that house. The basement reeks now, so anyone who shows it is NOT going to put in an offer. Even if someone wanted to put in a significantly lower offer, I don&#8217;t know if they could even get a mortgage if a lender knows there&#8217;s mold growing (seems like a huge liability to a lender). Even if the bank doesn&#8217;t want to sell the house to us anymore, you&#8217;d think they&#8217;d still fix the mold problem if they want anyone to ever buy the house. There are no windows in the basement and there were no de-humidifiers to deal with the wet carpet&#8211; a jungle is going to grow down there.</p>
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		<title>By: FranklyRealty.com Trust Me I&#8217;m A REALTOR &#187; Terms, the New Money for REO and Short Sales</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranklyRealty.com Trust Me I&#8217;m A REALTOR &#187; Terms, the New Money for REO and Short Sales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 04:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ALL CASH. The all cash won. But then the buyer persnickety (great word) started meddling with the bank addendum (see older post) . The bank said forget you. Went back to the 50% cash offer, which lowered the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ALL CASH. The all cash won. But then the buyer persnickety (great word) started meddling with the bank addendum (see older post) . The bank said forget you. Went back to the 50% cash offer, which lowered the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FRANK LL0SA Va Broker- BLOG.FranklyRealty.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRANK LL0SA Va Broker- BLOG.FranklyRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, they don&#039;t have the legal department to review every little change to a contract.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also just because an addendum says something, it doesn&#039;t mean it is legally enforceable. Many parts of the addendum are not legal and a judge would throw it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, they don&#8217;t have the legal department to review every little change to a contract.</p>
<p>Also just because an addendum says something, it doesn&#8217;t mean it is legally enforceable. Many parts of the addendum are not legal and a judge would throw it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen an addendum which states that if the contract has to be extended, the purchaser will be charged $300 for the extension AND a $100 per diem (per day) charge for the amount of days after the contract...AND AN ADDITIONAL DEDUCTION FROM THE SELLING BROKER&#039;S COMMISSION OF $20 PER DAY FOR EVERY DAY THE CONTRACT HAS TO BE EXTENDED?  My Broker went through the roof.  My clients attorney looked over the addendum and said for us to scratch 2 whole paragraphs.  The asset manager of a holding company replied as the &quot;seller&quot; and said: THE ADDENDUM IS NON-NEGOTIABLE !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen an addendum which states that if the contract has to be extended, the purchaser will be charged $300 for the extension AND a $100 per diem (per day) charge for the amount of days after the contract&#8230;AND AN ADDITIONAL DEDUCTION FROM THE SELLING BROKER&#8217;S COMMISSION OF $20 PER DAY FOR EVERY DAY THE CONTRACT HAS TO BE EXTENDED?  My Broker went through the roof.  My clients attorney looked over the addendum and said for us to scratch 2 whole paragraphs.  The asset manager of a holding company replied as the &#8220;seller&#8221; and said: THE ADDENDUM IS NON-NEGOTIABLE !!</p>
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		<title>By: FRANK LL0SA Va Broker- BLOG.FranklyRealty.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRANK LL0SA Va Broker- BLOG.FranklyRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw this in their contract : &quot;Buyer is responsible for verifying any possible liens, judgments, or assessments that may not be of record and hereby releases Seller from any and all liability related to any such liens, judgments or assessments.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yet they want you to use THEIR closing company? Give me a break!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw this in their contract : &#8220;Buyer is responsible for verifying any possible liens, judgments, or assessments that may not be of record and hereby releases Seller from any and all liability related to any such liens, judgments or assessments.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet they want you to use THEIR closing company? Give me a break!</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Barron, REO Listing Agent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Barron, REO Listing Agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably not timely advice for Elizabeth, but as an REO agent who experiences this often, this may provide an answer to the the bank not being shown as title holder in the public record:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A lot of foreclosure attorney&#039;s will execute the foreclosure but hold the actual deed until they are paid for their services.  If for whatever reason they are not paid, the deed from the foreclosure is not recorded.  When this is discovered, it is usually only that payment has to be rendered for the foreclosure work and the foreclosure attorney releases the deed for recording immediately upon receipt.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If it is discovered last minute and everybody is on top of it once it&#039;s discovered, then it can usually be &lt;i&gt;remedied&lt;/i&gt; within a week.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In short, if the public record does not show the bank as the owner, it does not necessarily been that the bank is not the actual owner.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Buying an REO can send your blood pressure through the room, but sometimes the deal is good enough to make it worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably not timely advice for Elizabeth, but as an REO agent who experiences this often, this may provide an answer to the the bank not being shown as title holder in the public record:</p>
<p>A lot of foreclosure attorney&#8217;s will execute the foreclosure but hold the actual deed until they are paid for their services.  If for whatever reason they are not paid, the deed from the foreclosure is not recorded.  When this is discovered, it is usually only that payment has to be rendered for the foreclosure work and the foreclosure attorney releases the deed for recording immediately upon receipt.</p>
<p>If it is discovered last minute and everybody is on top of it once it&#8217;s discovered, then it can usually be <i>remedied</i> within a week.</p>
<p>In short, if the public record does not show the bank as the owner, it does not necessarily been that the bank is not the actual owner.</p>
<p>Buying an REO can send your blood pressure through the room, but sometimes the deal is good enough to make it worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony English</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony English</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As a Realtor of 16 years - your post is right on!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>As a Realtor of 16 years &#8211; your post is right on!</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: steve loynd</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve loynd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here is another example of last minute screwing(s) thrown into the deal, my buyer signs a regular state accepted P&amp;S (in New Hampshire) when the addendum arrives after a buyer flies in from Seattle for an inspection we find (not previously disclosed) deal is as is, and buyer is responsible for both sides of the state transfer tax on 200K is .75/1000 or 1,500 buyer side (expected) plus another $1,500 thank you needless to say a flight across the country, a review of a surprise addendum and a trip back empty handed no one was happy in the end... these banks should be giving first mortgages with no closing costs to dump this stuff rather than turning it into a profit center.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank</p>
<p>Here is another example of last minute screwing(s) thrown into the deal, my buyer signs a regular state accepted P&#038;S (in New Hampshire) when the addendum arrives after a buyer flies in from Seattle for an inspection we find (not previously disclosed) deal is as is, and buyer is responsible for both sides of the state transfer tax on 200K is .75/1000 or 1,500 buyer side (expected) plus another $1,500 thank you needless to say a flight across the country, a review of a surprise addendum and a trip back empty handed no one was happy in the end&#8230; these banks should be giving first mortgages with no closing costs to dump this stuff rather than turning it into a profit center.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: FRANK LL0SA Va Broker- BLOG.FranklyRealty.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRANK LL0SA Va Broker- BLOG.FranklyRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Elizabeth,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What a mess.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Have you looked around to see if there are any other homes. Sure you have already paid $1,000 but what if you could get another place for a few thousand less? I know it hurts, but you would be better off.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is against the MLS rules to list a property that is not owned by the title holder (as far as I know). Who is the settlement company. If you tell me that you agreed to use the bank&#039;s settlement company, I will throw this website at you. You need to get your own settlement company (in Virginia the buyer picks, but the seller somtimes offers bribes to use their lackey). The settlement company should be telling you who really owns the property.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also you can contact the listing agent&#039;s broker to find out who owns the place. The broker is the one that technically owns the listing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also never do anything verbally. And if they made even one change to the contract, that means you have NO contract. Everything is null and void until both sides agree in writing to one document. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good luck&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Elizabeth,</p>
<p>What a mess.</p>
<p>Have you looked around to see if there are any other homes. Sure you have already paid $1,000 but what if you could get another place for a few thousand less? I know it hurts, but you would be better off.</p>
<p>It is against the MLS rules to list a property that is not owned by the title holder (as far as I know). Who is the settlement company. If you tell me that you agreed to use the bank&#8217;s settlement company, I will throw this website at you. You need to get your own settlement company (in Virginia the buyer picks, but the seller somtimes offers bribes to use their lackey). The settlement company should be telling you who really owns the property.</p>
<p>Also you can contact the listing agent&#8217;s broker to find out who owns the place. The broker is the one that technically owns the listing.</p>
<p>Also never do anything verbally. And if they made even one change to the contract, that means you have NO contract. Everything is null and void until both sides agree in writing to one document. </p>
<p>Good luck</p>
<p>Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone has insight into our issues.. that would great&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here is a little background:   The house is listed as &quot;Bank Owned&quot; and has been on the market for over a year, but we believe that the bank did not get possession of it until about 3 months ago.   We placed our first offer beginning of December and did not receive a counter offer for 3 plus weeks. We then countered with a verbal offer(per our agent) and received a verbal acceptance January 11th.  Not knowing any better we immediately had our house inspection done, without a signed contract.  It wasn&#039;t until February 14th that we received an illegible signed contract with a close date of March 6th. The contract had also been modified from our original close date of 30 days from signing.  This gives us 3 weeks to close.  We requested a letter changing our close date to March 17th to no avail and we have since sent them a contract for them to sign with March 17th as the close date.   To  make things more complicated, our agent was in Vietnam for three weeks and we were dealing with another agent during his absence. Upon our agents return we did get a preliminary title which has the original owners name on it, not the banks. The home is listed as bank owned on the mls and our agent doesn&#039;t seem know why the title isn&#039;t clean and he isn&#039;t getting a response from the bank (Countrywide) or the original listing agent.   Meanwhile, the bank did perform a termite inspection on January 31st(even before we had a signed contract) and found level 1 damage, which they have agreed to take care of which includes tenting the house. This will also need to completed before close of escrow, but we have yet to get a date for the completion of this either.   So, as you can see.. it&#039;s a mess. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Changed contract- we requested a legible copy, no results.  We also don&#039;t think that they can complete everything within their own close date. We are happy to close earlier than the 17th, but need the items below fixed. &lt;br/&gt;No clean title - is this something they change at point of sale? Everything I have read, is that the bank should have title. &lt;br/&gt;Termite Tenting &lt;br/&gt;Good Faith Check- our agent also told us to hold onto this check until the bank performed.&lt;br/&gt;Do you have suggestions for how we should be proceeding? We have paid over $1000 in inspections( house,septic,mold etc) and if the house has been mis-represented as bank owned and they can&#039;t close the deal, we are out our $1000, plus the house.   Unfortunately, our agent is our little help. We would appreciate any suggestions you might have help our house to close &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks so much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone has insight into our issues.. that would great</p>
<p>Here is a little background:   The house is listed as &#8220;Bank Owned&#8221; and has been on the market for over a year, but we believe that the bank did not get possession of it until about 3 months ago.   We placed our first offer beginning of December and did not receive a counter offer for 3 plus weeks. We then countered with a verbal offer(per our agent) and received a verbal acceptance January 11th.  Not knowing any better we immediately had our house inspection done, without a signed contract.  It wasn&#8217;t until February 14th that we received an illegible signed contract with a close date of March 6th. The contract had also been modified from our original close date of 30 days from signing.  This gives us 3 weeks to close.  We requested a letter changing our close date to March 17th to no avail and we have since sent them a contract for them to sign with March 17th as the close date.   To  make things more complicated, our agent was in Vietnam for three weeks and we were dealing with another agent during his absence. Upon our agents return we did get a preliminary title which has the original owners name on it, not the banks. The home is listed as bank owned on the mls and our agent doesn&#8217;t seem know why the title isn&#8217;t clean and he isn&#8217;t getting a response from the bank (Countrywide) or the original listing agent.   Meanwhile, the bank did perform a termite inspection on January 31st(even before we had a signed contract) and found level 1 damage, which they have agreed to take care of which includes tenting the house. This will also need to completed before close of escrow, but we have yet to get a date for the completion of this either.   So, as you can see.. it&#8217;s a mess. </p>
<p>Changed contract- we requested a legible copy, no results.  We also don&#8217;t think that they can complete everything within their own close date. We are happy to close earlier than the 17th, but need the items below fixed. <br />No clean title &#8211; is this something they change at point of sale? Everything I have read, is that the bank should have title. <br />Termite Tenting <br />Good Faith Check- our agent also told us to hold onto this check until the bank performed.<br />Do you have suggestions for how we should be proceeding? We have paid over $1000 in inspections( house,septic,mold etc) and if the house has been mis-represented as bank owned and they can&#8217;t close the deal, we are out our $1000, plus the house.   Unfortunately, our agent is our little help. We would appreciate any suggestions you might have help our house to close </p>
<p>Thanks so much</p>
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