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		<title>By: REdealSEEKER</title>
		<link>http://blog.franklyrealty.com/2009/04/courthouse-step-foreclosures.html/comment-page-1#comment-4251</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frank,
I know you wrote this back in April, but wanted to follow up on this subject.  From this  (Dec 09) weekend&#039;s Northern Virginia Housing Bubble Fallout Blog, here is someone&#039;s comment on the recent courthouse foreclosure auction scene:

Yes, the word is definitely that the deals are back to the Courthouse. That usually means cash, no inspection and close in 15 to 30 days. There are Lenders, but you need 30% down and can only get a 5 yr note (my experience anyway). I don&#039;t think Frankly shows non-mls transactions, but I could be wrong. These transaction can be found on county web sites. by searching various neighborhoods.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frank,<br />
I know you wrote this back in April, but wanted to follow up on this subject.  From this  (Dec 09) weekend&#8217;s Northern Virginia Housing Bubble Fallout Blog, here is someone&#8217;s comment on the recent courthouse foreclosure auction scene:</p>
<p>Yes, the word is definitely that the deals are back to the Courthouse. That usually means cash, no inspection and close in 15 to 30 days. There are Lenders, but you need 30% down and can only get a 5 yr note (my experience anyway). I don&#8217;t think Frankly shows non-mls transactions, but I could be wrong. These transaction can be found on county web sites. by searching various neighborhoods.</p>
<p>Your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: FranklyRealty.com</title>
		<link>http://blog.franklyrealty.com/2009/04/courthouse-step-foreclosures.html/comment-page-1#comment-4131</link>
		<dc:creator>FranklyRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 02:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who knows, maybe an investor will get it on the courthouse steps. But it can take at least 2 months to get back on the market. But some banks are just sitting on them vacant for several months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knows, maybe an investor will get it on the courthouse steps. But it can take at least 2 months to get back on the market. But some banks are just sitting on them vacant for several months.</p>
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		<title>By: CW</title>
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		<dc:creator>CW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long does it typically take once the bank buys back the home before they list it for sale as a foreclosed home?  I&#039;m guessing this varies by each bank?  I&#039;ve been watching a house with a mortgage that&#039;s almost twice what it&#039;s worth today so I&#039;m guessing that the bank will just buy it back (whenever it can get to the courthouse since the sale has been postponed before).  The house is pretty trashed, so I&#039;m very interested in following the house to see how low the bank will go to unload it once they put it on the market.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long does it typically take once the bank buys back the home before they list it for sale as a foreclosed home?  I&#8217;m guessing this varies by each bank?  I&#8217;ve been watching a house with a mortgage that&#8217;s almost twice what it&#8217;s worth today so I&#8217;m guessing that the bank will just buy it back (whenever it can get to the courthouse since the sale has been postponed before).  The house is pretty trashed, so I&#8217;m very interested in following the house to see how low the bank will go to unload it once they put it on the market.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: FranklyRealty.com</title>
		<link>http://blog.franklyrealty.com/2009/04/courthouse-step-foreclosures.html/comment-page-1#comment-3514</link>
		<dc:creator>FranklyRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant question. 
I think that site is a bogus bait and switch. Every single agent that I have spoken to about that site says the same thing. I don&#039;t know one person that has found a home through it. They bring you in with over a year old data and then try and sell you a realtor to help you with a regular resale home on the MLS.
Save your money. Much better is foreclosure.com or ask your Realtor to look at our new back end foreclosure data that we have access to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant question.<br />
I think that site is a bogus bait and switch. Every single agent that I have spoken to about that site says the same thing. I don&#8217;t know one person that has found a home through it. They bring you in with over a year old data and then try and sell you a realtor to help you with a regular resale home on the MLS.<br />
Save your money. Much better is foreclosure.com or ask your Realtor to look at our new back end foreclosure data that we have access to.</p>
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		<title>By: jack archer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack archer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the deal with realtytrak.com -- they show a ton of foreclosed homes in the area -- what gives?  I don&#039;t see them listed on mls websites.  Are they real?  Are the banks holding these houses for some reason?  There are a ton of them??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the deal with realtytrak.com &#8212; they show a ton of foreclosed homes in the area &#8212; what gives?  I don&#8217;t see them listed on mls websites.  Are they real?  Are the banks holding these houses for some reason?  There are a ton of them??????</p>
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		<title>By: Brnadon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brnadon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great use of video!</description>
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		<title>By: mortgagedataweb</title>
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		<dc:creator>mortgagedataweb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You have the most useful and most informative site for real estate in Northern Virginia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>You have the most useful and most informative site for real estate in Northern Virginia!</p>
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		<title>By: Sweth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sweth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 03:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even when the market was hot and properties weren&#039;t underwater, foreclosure auctions in this area were rarely a place to get a good deal, simply because there were so many full-time investors in the market, who had the time to do their due diligence on all of the properties each week and identify the ones that were potential good deals.  So you almost always had competition if you were bidding on one of the good values, which usually eliminated a good portion of the value...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even when the market was hot and properties weren&#8217;t underwater, foreclosure auctions in this area were rarely a place to get a good deal, simply because there were so many full-time investors in the market, who had the time to do their due diligence on all of the properties each week and identify the ones that were potential good deals.  So you almost always had competition if you were bidding on one of the good values, which usually eliminated a good portion of the value&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak for Arlington, but I&#039;ve attended several auctions on the courthouse steps in Montgomery County.  Your description of Arlington&#039;s auctions is similar to what I&#039;ve seen in Mo.Co.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many of the properties are taken off the block at the last second (I&#039;ve seen the auctioneer receive the call minutes before a scheduled auction).  The trustee&#039;s opening bid is often high enough so that no one bids on it.  However, in Montgomery County, I would say that about one in  12 properties that actually makes it to be auctioned is bought.  If the price does end up being low enough to entice bidders, you will likely be bidding against  very experienced investors.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With all the dangers out there in purchasing a property in this manner, there are huge potential upsides.  I saw a house that was in great condition (it was listed as a short sale up until about a week before the auction)  go for 301K , and is now listed by the winning bidder at 530K about a month later.  I went to an open house and he had probably spent under 2K &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You would have to be very patient, and invest a lot of time to both examine the properties, and attend the auctions.  The guys that are buying attend just about every auction.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having been following this for a little while, it seems that with the DC area real estate market improving some, there have been less auction deals in the last month, then there were early in the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak for Arlington, but I&#8217;ve attended several auctions on the courthouse steps in Montgomery County.  Your description of Arlington&#8217;s auctions is similar to what I&#8217;ve seen in Mo.Co.  </p>
<p>Many of the properties are taken off the block at the last second (I&#8217;ve seen the auctioneer receive the call minutes before a scheduled auction).  The trustee&#8217;s opening bid is often high enough so that no one bids on it.  However, in Montgomery County, I would say that about one in  12 properties that actually makes it to be auctioned is bought.  If the price does end up being low enough to entice bidders, you will likely be bidding against  very experienced investors.  </p>
<p>With all the dangers out there in purchasing a property in this manner, there are huge potential upsides.  I saw a house that was in great condition (it was listed as a short sale up until about a week before the auction)  go for 301K , and is now listed by the winning bidder at 530K about a month later.  I went to an open house and he had probably spent under 2K </p>
<p>You would have to be very patient, and invest a lot of time to both examine the properties, and attend the auctions.  The guys that are buying attend just about every auction.   </p>
<p>Having been following this for a little while, it seems that with the DC area real estate market improving some, there have been less auction deals in the last month, then there were early in the year.</p>
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		<title>By: FRANK LL0SA Va Broker- BLOG.FranklyRealty.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant questions Anonymous, I should have put them in my main post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q. Is it typically possible to view the property before the auction?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A. Nope.  They usually have a very disgruntled owner or renter living there. Maybe if you bribe them with $50, but for the most part, you have to assume the worst. Watch out for trespassing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q What are the risks of buying from an auction (other than potentially wasting your time)?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A. You could write a book on the risks. Let me hit some. &lt;br /&gt;1) See above, you can&#039;t see inside the property. &lt;br /&gt;2) You can&#039;t inspect it. &lt;br /&gt;3) Watch out for other Liens. You might pay $300k, but then there might be another $50,000 lien on it that you might be responsible for. You can pay a closing company a few hundred to do a title search or go to the courthouse and try to do your own search.&lt;br /&gt;Honestly, I looked into this 2 years ago, and I never really understood why the 2nd lien wouldn&#039;t necessarily be wiped out. SO all I can say is don&#039;t mess with it, unless you understand that the price you are paying is the full amount, and no other responsibilities.&lt;br /&gt;4) You have to bring a cashier&#039;s check for about 10% cash.&lt;br /&gt;5) 99% of homes sell back to the bank, so you would have to check out 100 homes to get 1, and that 1 won&#039;t necessarily be some bargain basement price.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Basically until I go back again in a year or hear about people buying it from the courthouse steps, it just isn&#039;t an option.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q Once the price is determined, is there a difference between an auction purchase and a normal purchase?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes. All of the above. A normal purchase has more inspections, and you are buying it with a clean title.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hope that answers your questions, to the best of my knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant questions Anonymous, I should have put them in my main post.</p>
<p>Q. Is it typically possible to view the property before the auction?</p>
<p>A. Nope.  They usually have a very disgruntled owner or renter living there. Maybe if you bribe them with $50, but for the most part, you have to assume the worst. Watch out for trespassing.</p>
<p>Q What are the risks of buying from an auction (other than potentially wasting your time)?</p>
<p>A. You could write a book on the risks. Let me hit some. <br />1) See above, you can&#8217;t see inside the property. <br />2) You can&#8217;t inspect it. <br />3) Watch out for other Liens. You might pay $300k, but then there might be another $50,000 lien on it that you might be responsible for. You can pay a closing company a few hundred to do a title search or go to the courthouse and try to do your own search.<br />Honestly, I looked into this 2 years ago, and I never really understood why the 2nd lien wouldn&#8217;t necessarily be wiped out. SO all I can say is don&#8217;t mess with it, unless you understand that the price you are paying is the full amount, and no other responsibilities.<br />4) You have to bring a cashier&#8217;s check for about 10% cash.<br />5) 99% of homes sell back to the bank, so you would have to check out 100 homes to get 1, and that 1 won&#8217;t necessarily be some bargain basement price.</p>
<p>Basically until I go back again in a year or hear about people buying it from the courthouse steps, it just isn&#8217;t an option.</p>
<p>Q Once the price is determined, is there a difference between an auction purchase and a normal purchase?</p>
<p>Yes. All of the above. A normal purchase has more inspections, and you are buying it with a clean title.</p>
<p>Hope that answers your questions, to the best of my knowledge.</p>
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