tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4797432599663441966.post-6849106359349208052007-05-24T00:32:00.001-04:002008-02-22T12:33:37.072-05:002008-02-22T12:33:37.072-05:0060 Minutes: Redfin Saves $27,000 vs FranklyRealty.com Client Saves $152,000!<img src="http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i18/franklyfrank1/th_1c523ee2.jpg" alt="" align="left" height="142" width="142" />Last week 3 people <strong>texted me</strong> (or would that be "text me")<br /><strong><em><img src="http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i18/franklyfrank1/th_818a21a2.jpg" alt="" align="right" height="114" width="91" /></em></strong>saying<strong><em></em></strong> <strong><em>"Turn on 60 minutes,</em></strong>" yet I missed it! (<a target="ssw" href="http://tinyurl.com/252tpt">see it</a>)<br /><br />America was lured in by the...<span id="fullpost"> <span style="color: rgb(204, 102, 0); font-weight: bold;">20 year long</span> <span style="color: rgb(204, 102, 0); font-weight: bold;">regurgitated story</span> <span style="font-style: italic;">"Attack on the 6% Realtors"</span> and comments about "saving thousands."<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i18/franklyfrank1/th_bcc7c749.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 94px; height: 94px;" src="http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i18/franklyfrank1/th_bcc7c749.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><p> </p><p>After watching such a biased infomercial, of course <a target=new href="http://redfin.com" ref="nofollow">Redfin</a> seems like a <span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255); font-weight: bold;">no-brainer.</span> Well my blog readers have a brain, so here it goes...<br /><br /><br /></p><p style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-size:85%;">Sidenote: Normally I'm not a fan of NAR, but I did agree with most of their comebacks (<a style="border-bottom-style: groove;" href="http://www.realtor.org/about_nar/NARRespondsToSixtyMinutes.html" target="_blank">click to see</a>).</span> </p><p>I have written extensively on my bias opinion on the pros and cons of rebating and discounting including:</p> <ul><li>For Buyers: <a href="http://franklyrealty.blogspot.com/2007/02/realtor-rebates-free-money-or-expensive.html">Realtor Rebates. Free Money or Expensive Savings?</a></li><li>For Sellers: <a href="http://franklyrealty.blogspot.com/2007/04/virginia-mls-flat-fee-fsbo-save-20000.html">Go FSBO! Save $20,000! Realtor Tells All!!</a></li></ul> <p>I would like to focus on the <span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0); font-weight: bold;">"savings" comment put forth by 60 Minutes' case study</span>. </p><strong>"WE SAVED $27,000"<em>* </em> </strong><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">NOTE THE ASTERISK!</span><img src="http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i18/franklyfrank1/th_9acdfa47.jpg" align="right" /><p>After they were done laughing and giggling on their couch about <u><strong>how they saved $27,000</strong></u> and how they could spend it on their wedding, they made an<span style="color: rgb(192, 192, 192);"> under-the-breathe comment</span> that they sold their place for...</p><p><u>"<strong>$10,000 under</strong> what <strong>Redfin recommended </strong>that we list it for."</u> </p><p>In this comment I see two things to question:</p><p><strong>1) "$10,000 Under List"</strong></p><p><strong>2) "The list price recommended by Redfin."</strong></p><p><img src="http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i18/franklyfrank1/th_abd661b4.jpg" alt="" align="left" height="130" width="91" />So let's start with the <strong>latter...</strong><img src="http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i18/franklyfrank1/th_503be3e7.gif" alt="" align="right" height="136" width="160" /></p><p> If some of their agents do as many as 8 closings a week, might it be <em>remotely possible</em> that they might have a strategy of<span style="font-weight: bold;"> listing low in order to sell fast? </span>I'm not saying they do, but would that make sense to anybody <strong>besides me</strong>? </p><p>And for the "$10,000 under list," while I oftentimes say that<span style="font-weight: bold;"> "Many Listing Agents Suck"</span> <a target="sess" href="http://realtytimes.com/rtapages/20070329_bloggerrant.htm">See RealtyTimes article </a> or <a style="border-bottom-style: groove;" target="ss" href="http://franklyrealty.blogspot.com/2007/01/for-realtors-sucky-listing-agents-i.html">my blog</a>, one has to wonder if another motivated agent that had more time to devote to the listing might have:</p><ol><li>Landed them full list ($10,000 higher)</li><li>Started higher and ended higher ($15,000+ higher)</li><li>Got a bidding war going, resulting in a much higher net ($32,000 like our Realtor Megan's listing, see <a href="http://franklyrealty.blogspot.com/2007/04/test.html" target="_blank">blog</a>). </li></ol><p>In my biased opinion, the best way to get the most for the house isn't to find one buyer, but to <strong>find at least TWO buyers</strong>.<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"> I don't believe in pricing low to start a bidding war,</span> but I do believe in getting as many buyers into the process as possible. A process that can take an <strong>extra 8 hours in one day</strong> for one agent, while netting the client another $32,000.</p><p>Back to the <strong>"$27,000 total in savings," </strong>that was for buying and selling. If we assume that they bought a bigger place, they probably "saved"<span style="font-weight: bold;"> $12,000</span> on the listing and "saved" <span style="font-weight: bold;">$15,000</span> on the purchase.<br /></p><p>I'm confident, and I have references to back me on this, that<span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> I can consistently do at least $12,000 higher than a discount agent. </span>I wish there was a way to prove this with statistics,<span style="font-weight: bold;"> but they would just be manipulated.<br /></span></p><p>Instead I can only give real world examples:</p><ol><li>Megan, with <a href="http://franklyrealty.com/">FranklyRealty.com</a>, had a recent listing (See<a href="http://franklyrealty.blogspot.com/2007/04/test.html"> Bidding Wars? It's The Staging Stupid!)</a> The initial discussion regarding the starting price at the listing appointment was roughly<span style="font-weight: bold;"> $550,000</span> (seller's opinion). After staging, light remodeling and further research, and many hours of work, the starting price was set aggressively at <span style="font-weight: bold;">$570,000.</span> The end result was 3 offers and a ratified contract <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">$13,000 higher. </span>While I'm confident in these number being an example of hard work, <strong>Redfin might also find an example of an agent that did a similar great job.</strong> <strong>And if that person was so great... I would hire them and pay them double, because they are worth it. <span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:78%;" >(think about that for a second, if you could offer value way beyond discounting, wouldn't you start charging accordingly?)<p></p></span></strong><span style="font-style: italic;">Sidenote: ZipRealty, another discount firm (some disagree with that term, see blog comments/debate), according to one blog is full of disgruntled, newer, and underpaid agents that are overworked. External blog: </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://www.bloodhoundrealty.com/BloodhoundBlog/?p=1086" target="_blank"><strong>What's Wrong with zipRealty</strong></a> <p><br /></p></li><li><a href="http://www.bloodhoundrealty.com/BloodhoundBlog/?p=1086" target="_blank"><strong></strong></a><strong>FranklyRealty.com Saves Client $152,000</strong> should be the next 60 minutes update.<br /></li></ol><p> </p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center;"><img src="http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i18/franklyfrank1/87f1d012.jpg" alt="" /></p><p><em><u>The above is actually a true story. </u></em>It was a hot seller's market, and with proper marketing and about 10 stressful non-stop hours the <strong>$499,000 listing was bid up to $601,000.</strong> One thing is to bid it up,<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"> another is to</span><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"> actually close at this price.</span> Especially after several attempts to renegotiate, and appraisal issues. Yeah sure, I got a few bucks for the incremental difference, but that is nothing compared to the <strong>unexpected $102,000 in their pockets</strong>. Sure they could have "saved" and sold it fast FSBO, but they wouldn't have been able to get anything near what I got them (their words). </p><p>Then on <strong>their purchase,</strong> they loved a house that was<strong> getting 8 offers</strong>. At FranklyRealty.com we don't write normal looking offers, and that sets us apart immediately<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"><img src="http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i18/franklyfrank1/th_9a9764c0.jpg" align="right" /></span>. Each offer is different.<span style="font-style: italic;"> </span><span style="font-style: italic;font-size:78%;" >I can't publish all my tricks here,</span> but when was the last time that you saw a contract that put the <strong>Realtor's ENTIRE commission on the line</strong> as a promise that we wouldn't renegotiate the offer? That is powerful. Also we run a CRA (tm) Comparative Realtor Analysis report (<a href="http://realtytimes.com/rtapages/20070329_bloggerrant.htm" target="_blank">see it here on RealtyTimes.com</a>) amongst many other systems <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 102, 0);">that net our client </span><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 102, 0);"> more. </span></p><p>A good agent should approach <strong style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><u>buying a house like an acquisition of a company</u></strong><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">.</span> Thus winning contracts for less. In this case the 8 offers were bid up to approximately $800,000. Why in the world would somebody take our lower offer? Well because money is not the only motivating factor. When we got that house for only $750,000 my clients were in shock <strong>after just getting approved by the lender to get bid up to $800,000. They saved $50,000.</strong><strong><img src="http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i18/franklyfrank1/th_69e05cc7.jpg" alt="" align="right" height="110" width="110" /></strong> </p><p><strong>So it doesn't matter if the market is hot, cold or you are buying or selling, an aggressive agent can save you much more, and do it in a way that all parties are <span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);">smiling in the end.</span></strong><br /></p><p>Ok, I got sidetracked. The point is that what a great agent does can't be compressed into 8 closings a week per agent.<br /></p><p>So you have to pick one:</p><ol><li> <strong><u>"save on commission" or<br /></u></strong></li><li><strong><u>"net more."</u></strong></li></ol><p>Bottom line is,<strong> </strong></p><p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"><strong><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">I used to rebate... but then I got... good.</span> </strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>Frank Borges LL0SA- Virginia Broker/ Owner</strong> <a href="http://franklyrealty.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">FranklyRealty.com</a></p> <p><a style="border-bottom-style: groove;" href="http://blog.franklyrealty.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Blog.FranklyRealty.com</a> Featured in BusinessWeek, CNBC, WSJ etc.<br /></p> <p style="text-align: center;"> <img src="http://franklyrealty.com/logos/Logo-07-Inch-GIF-2k.gif" alt="" /></p><span style="font-style: italic;">Don't miss another blog, get it</span><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"> via email.</span><span style="font-style: italic;"> Sign up now (spam-free) on the right side of the page.</span><br /><br />Videos at <a style="border-bottom-style: groove;" target="new" href="http://youtube.franklyrealty.com/">YouTube.FranklyRealty.com</a><br /><i><span style=";font-size:78%;color:silver;" >Keywords: Housing bubble? 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